[Steven Sinclair]

As per title what's everyone's thought's?

I'm rather pleased but that may be for slightly different reasons 😅




Fractured elbow and knee... All from tripping in my garage carrying a bloody box.  Rediculously easily done it would seem!

Stay home but as importantly stay safe 👍

 

Steven

[Mike Barrio]

Ouch, fractures can be really sore ...... look after yourself

Cheers
Mike

[Jim Eddie]

Steven
I think so , I want to be out fishing of course, but not if it costs lives.
Nasty fall there, almost did the same in my garage the other day 
 

Jim

[Sandy Nelson]

So much for staying safe at home!!!!

[Eddie Sinclair]

Stevie,

That was an expensive box, cost you an arm and a leg

Eddie

[Derek Roxborough]

Not my favourite Politician , but I think she has more Idea than Boris, I will stay at home until it's sorted, Derek Roxborough

[James Laraway]

ouchy...

im mostly happy with the Scottish 'stay at home' for a bit  but....

Fishing on hill lochs is much safer than almost any other activity outside of the house so 100 % should be allowed. Most of the fishing on these wild lochs is done by people on their own and miles from anyone else.

Stocked lochs could limit the amount of people allowed on, people could pay via contact-less etc

You could also re-open rivers for salmon fishing safely with a wee bit of common sense.

For example take the Dee.  You could set rules that say only those who stay within 30 mins of the river are allowed to buy tickets and fish it but social distancing must be observed and you are not allowed to use the bothy. 
Fishpal could ask for proof of address and this could be checked at the waterside. If you are found to have driven from the central belt for a cast then a quick call to the police would rectify the situation

On association waters it would be more tricky as they are more prone to overcrowding but that is not beyond the wit of man to solve....

[Derek Roxborough]

Stay at home, that's the Message and until that changes I will stay that way,
Derek Roxborough

[Rob Brownfield]

Right decision, dubious reasons, far reaching implications.

[Dave Robb]

It’s the wrong decision.

As it stands you can cycle as far as you want, queue for as long as you want at the shops amongst groups of people and walk for as long as you want at the water you can’t fish at.

This is what people are doing despite the stay at home message and they are quite entitled to do so because of how messed up the guidelines are.

But we’re deemed a risk by wanting to stand alone, fishing.

I could have been out today and probably not seen a soul.  Instead I’m off to do battle at Tesco,

[Terry Coging]

Absolutely agree Dave.  Our mental and physical well being will improve by getting outdoors in isolation. I could have gone fishing today but have to be careful to chose my time and place, as our various fisheries open up. I'm waiting for the big syndicated and club waters to open where there will be a good deal of control.  I went to one of our small club waters yesterday to make sure it was OK for members to use today. Enjoyed doing some maintenance work by myself but I won't be going there now for a while, not until the situation is safer for an old timer. I will just use common sense follow the hygiene guidelines and think of others.  Pleased that my old X Trail started first touch after standing for two months. Only did a 6 mile round trip but felt good to be out again 

[Euan Innes]

I am just back from work on 3 boats in Scrabster. It is apperently OK for me to collect a colleague from his house, drive north in the van, meet 30 more people than I have in the last two weeks, work in close proximity to half of them and come home and be back in the workshop tomorrow BUT not go fishing, alone. I am not self isolating after the trip.
Obviously we should not go near the old and sick in nursing homes, nor should we have added more sick people to the homes, but those of us who feel fine about going out in to the world should be encouraged to do so. The UK will be on its knees very soon with a workforce that wants to stay at home. Wrong move.
Other than the high risk areas like London, most of the country is at a very low risk. The death rate is not that much higher than a normal year. There have been worse flu seasons in UK history, with no lock down. In the late 60s America had a  bad case of Hong Kong flu and 100,000 people died, 1,000,000 world wide and nobody locked down. People were incouraged to get it to obtain immunity and yet here we are, panicking in our houses  and being force fed a diet of fear. Piers Morgan is losing the plot and ranting about mass murder, ffs. Celebrities are on promoting lockdown, which is fine if you are loaded and have a huge house and probably a promise of work if the recite the script.
The NHS will go back to being the royal f**k up it was before this germ arrived and I for one will never clap for a bunch of retards that have time to dance on Tik Tok and made my 88yr old mother do physio on a broken leg they didn't find and completely miss the cancer in her lungs, hip and liver.
If you say this line like a Dalek, getting higher each time, you may see what is happening. "Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives".
I have seen more people out walking dogs I didn't know they had, in groups, where I live than ever before. I drive to the woods near the North Esk and walk there, never seeing a soul. I sit and watch fish that I cannot cast for, and contemplate taking the wee rod with me. There have been some great hatches and I have even seen some Daddy Long Legs!
Last night the bar in the hotel in Wick was open to guests and we socially distanced from each other and got royally pished. 8 blokes, smiling, with no wives and pints in hand showing what can be accomplished.
Glen Tanar in a float tube or the Isla, alone with the short rod, cannot come quick enough.

Euan

[Derek Roxborough]

some people seem to be doing a mix and match with both decisions, the main thing , as I see it, is to stay safe and that keeps everybody safe, it only takes one selfish or stupid person to give it to more people. I would like to get fishing but my health is important to me and my family, stay safe and stay at home.
Derek Roxborough

[Dave Robb]

According to the report on a Scottish BBC today, 3213 deaths ‘linked’ to Covid 19 with 76% of those deaths being over 75 years old.

91% of those in April had underlying health conditions.

I really can’t help but feel the stats coming from the deaths in care homes are skewing the overall figures.  These care homes were in lockdown before the national lockdown, so really what good has that done?

Sturgeon will follow the English lead soon enough, she just wants to be seen to be making her own decision. 

I agree her message has been clearer though.  It’s an absolute cluster down south.

[Derek Roxborough]

you do what you want mate, I will wait, I am not a scientist but my Daughter -in law is, she is actually working on the Vaccine team, and If she says take care then I will listen to her before I listen to you , Derek Roxborough

[Dave Robb]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/13/pensioners-34-times-more-likely-to-die-of-covid-19-than-working-age-brits-data-shows

More figures released today.  Over 65’s are 34 more times likely to die than those of a working age.

Out of all the deaths in the UK, only 401 are under 45.  You then also have to factor in underlying health issues.

I would certainly be staying in if I was older and at risk. 

[Terry Coging]

It can be a dilemma for us older guys. I turn 82 this year, similar to Derek. Not a lot of time left for all that I plan to do. 
So, do I stay at home and probably die anyway, or do I go fishing? Fortunately I have kept myself very fit with gardening and building every day plus done 700km on the C2 rowing machine this year. No medication. BP perfect and RHR low 40's. I'm saying all this to demonstrate that all of us older people are not unfit and that we should not be grouped together.
Think I'll walk the short 3/4 mile to the river this afternoon with the little fly rod. The Trent here has been regarded as a coarse river but pollution wiped them out and now the  Grayling and Trout are back, but no one seems to know that. There will be no one else there - my little secret  .

[James Laraway]

realistically Scotland is a week or two behind England, especially London, so easing things first down south makes sense,

Especially as a tonne of people got it in London so there is probably a degree of immunity. Mind you we will see if a few weeks as public transport seems to be heaving again  in London. If i lived there i would NOT me going to work if i had a choise.

How much is NS's decision is driven by political posturing and the desire to cause division  vs 'the science' ? I'll not state my view as we dont do politics on this forum which is a good thing.

I was listing to Jason Leitch on 'off the ball' on saturday and he basically said that Scotland would follow England VERY shortly so here's hoping !

So was there such a need for a political 'rammy' up here over something that is going to happen almost straight after england ?

Im shielding my daughter but i think that it is safe for me to go fishing somewhere remote right now as almost anything else i can think to do like walk the dog is far more likely to get me inflected !

[Derek Roxborough]

every thing is self self self,although I have underlying health problems , I keep fit for my age, walking to remote hill lochs etc. but I will take my cue from the Government scientists, I would like to go fishing etc.but if I am not loading the NHS. then I will stay put, you lot do what you want Derek Roxborough

[Duncan McRae]

I'm happy enough with the decision.
If the lock down is eased in the near future i will still have around five months of fishing to look forward to.
That's more than enough for me these days.

Duncan

[Derek Roxborough]

I'm  Ok with the Decision also, but don't hold your breath Duncan, I think it's next year for a cast, Derek Roxborough

[Dave Robb]

Giving that it’s barely justifiable at the moment we can’t go out fishing, I would like to think we will be fishing come June.

If it is the case we go a whole season not being allowed to fish, the rest of society would still be in lockdown and economy as good as finished.

Just can’t see that happening.

[Euan Innes]

Agreed. Sooner the better. Sweden has had a great success with herd immunity, as has Belarus. Way better results than closing the healthy population indooors, which in the history of the world has NEVER happened before. "Only" 300,000 have died globally, which is almost normal and is a very small number considring that we are appraoching 9 billion. London is at a regular 0.1 infection rate. The whole thing is a joke. Aids has killed more, abortion has killed more and suicide is getting close.
Stop being sheep and get out more.



Have a good weekend boys😎

Euan

[Derek Roxborough]

so we don't really need any Of Nicolas advisers when we have you,    ,Derek Roxborough                 

[Derek Roxborough]

another 384 deaths, so it's not actually going away? Derek Roxborough