yes Mike, I had a more modern Panda which I liked a lot, my Daughter had the 4wd version nice wheels , my favourite early car was the Renault 4, I have had that in places where Landies wouldn't go Being too heavy for some Boggy Ground here, with Michelin ZX +M all terrain tires, and being light it would literally go any where, which is more than I can say about the Punto, but it goes and cheaply , Derek Roxborough