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Dave Mundie

Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« on: 10/01/2008 at 13:14 »
Hope the snow dont come tomorrow i'm planning going to waulkmill for a full day, have any of you been latley hows it been any takes, what were you using ect.

Dave

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #1 on: 10/01/2008 at 17:52 »
Dave

I fished it Satuday , as I stated in another post , most of the guys were fishing lures on sinking /Intermediate lines (including myself) with little to no success, not to say this won't work tomorrow.

I changed to floating line with a bloodworm on the point and buzzer on the dropper and had more success.  You just need to move round the loch to find out where the fish are.

 :z18

Jim

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #2 on: 10/01/2008 at 18:06 »
Dave

I fished it Satuday , as I stated in another post , most of the guys were fishing lures on sinking /Intermediate lines (including myself) with little to no success, not to say this won't work tomorrow.

I changed to floating line with a bloodworm on the point and buzzer on the dropper and had more success.  You just need to move round the loch to find out where the fish are.

 :z18

Jim

Jim,

I've only got a floating line don't think i got any bloodworms you can see a link to the contents of my fly box here http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=850.0

Dave

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #3 on: 10/01/2008 at 18:51 »
Dave

Want to buy some flies  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

You have a decent enough selection of lures , try a long leader and a slow retreive. Change the colour if that does not work.

If your lures are not working try the buzzers.

Get your self over to Haddo when Mike is well again, buy one of his clear intermediates, to be honest along with your floater taht is all you should need for this part of the country.

 :z18
Jim     

Hamish Young

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #4 on: 10/01/2008 at 18:55 »
Dave,
Hint for you, on Photobucket you'll see there's an IMG code below each picture, if you click on that it will copy straight away. Go to your post in a forum such as this and simply paste - watch out, some forums (such as this one) have IMG in lower case so you'll have to change IMG to img in the link but the result is:



That puts the picture in your post rather than readers having to follow the link  :z16


Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #5 on: 10/01/2008 at 18:58 »
Dave,
Hint for you, on Photobucket you'll see there's an IMG code below each picture, if you click on that it will copy straight away. Go to your post in a forum such as this and simply paste - watch out, some forums (such as this one) have IMG in lower case so you'll have to change IMG to img in the link but the result is:


That puts the picture in your post rather than readers having to follow the link  :z16



I thought if you uploaded the pictures it used up space on the forums server?

Dave

Hamish Young

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #6 on: 10/01/2008 at 19:00 »
Shouldn't be too bad as it's essentially just an "active" link to another site  :cool: But Mr B might disagree  :?

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #7 on: 10/01/2008 at 19:02 »
Dave

Want to buy some flies  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

You have a decent enough selection of lures , try a long leader and a slow retreive. Change the colour if that does not work.

If your lures are not working try the buzzers.

Get your self over to Haddo when Mike is well again, buy one of his clear intermediates, to be honest along with your floater taht is all you should need for this part of the country.

 :z18
Jim     

Well thats the problem with not knowing whats whats in the fly world. hopefully i'll meet up with some of you guy's someday and you can point me in the right direction.

I stay in pitmedden so not far to pop up and see Mike

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #8 on: 10/01/2008 at 19:35 »
Dave

Recognisng all the different flies takes time , its not something that happens overnight , log on to the following site and scroll through the different sections and you'll get an idea on all the flies and their names.

I buy a lot of flies on this site and can reccomend them http://www.fliesonline.co.uk/

Once you  have fished for a while you will build up your collection of favorite flies, generally ones you have caught fish on and have confidence in. You will pobally want a box of lures , wets, dries, nymphys and buzzers.

Now once you have fished for a few seasosns you may wish to consolidate your favourite into one box , don't do as I do and have 15 boxes in case that pattern i bought in 1982 turns out to be  killer one day  :roll

 :z18

Jim

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #9 on: 10/01/2008 at 21:05 »
cheers will let you know how i get on.

Dave

Sandy Nelson

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #10 on: 10/01/2008 at 21:57 »
don't do as I do and have 15 boxes in case that pattern i bought in 1982 turns out to be  killer one day  :roll

But it might be :z4

Is this not the point to flies?, its even worse when you tie your own :z6

I should know :roll
 :z4 :z4 :z4

Sandy

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #11 on: 11/01/2008 at 19:03 »
Phoned George before i took my son to school but there was no answer got home he had called back so i called him again but no answer again so i just went anyway.

It was frozen solid when i arrived  :!

So ended up at lochter instead was there from bout 11am and fished till 4pm ish and only had 1 bite the whole time  :cry.

Must have tried nearly everything in my box.

But at least i wasn't alone others were having a tough time of it to.

so after today i'll have to get myself an intermediate but only thing is i'll have to get new reel too as i dont have spools for mine.

Dave

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #12 on: 11/01/2008 at 19:20 »
Dave

When I saw the weather in Peterhead this morning I thought you might be out of luck. Don't be disheartened, it can be dificult at this time of year.
If I were you I would buy one of the cartridge type reels , there are many reasonably priced ones, they  supplied with 3 or more spare spools.

 :z18

Jim

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #13 on: 11/01/2008 at 19:35 »
Dave

When I saw the weather in Peterhead this morning I thought you might be out of luck. Don't be disheartened, it can be dificult at this time of year.
If I were you I would buy one of the cartridge type reels , there are many reasonably priced ones, they  supplied with 3 or more spare spools.

 :z18

Jim

Well i had a good chat with some of the guys and old Sandy he's a great guy.

Was just looking at this CENTURIAN REEL & 3 FLY LINES on here https://secure.legend.co.uk/yga/acatalog/YGA_SPECIAL_OFFERS.html what you think for a beginner like me?

Dave

Mike Barrio

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #14 on: 11/01/2008 at 20:26 »
Hi Dave

Yes, that is a good choice. They do the job perfectly well and they don't break the bank :wink

I think you'll find it is a reel with 3 spare spools ( no lines ) but these reels are usually about £25 to £30.

Best wishes
Mike

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #15 on: 11/01/2008 at 20:28 »
Dave

Thats reel with 3 spools not 3 lines , for a beginner thats fine , reels are not that important. If you get hooked you may want something more flash.

I fyou don't have a lot of money to spend the reel is probably the best ite to compromise on , I would get the best lines you can for the money though, you can't go wrong with Mikes lines.

 :z18

Jim

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #16 on: 11/01/2008 at 20:45 »
Mike if you scroll further down it has the reel, spools + 3 lines and 3 fly boxes for £50.

I think it's worth going for what you think?

Dave

Jim Eddie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #17 on: 11/01/2008 at 20:52 »
See it now Dave , for abeginner thats not a bad deal , as I've said though if you are "Hooked" you will want to upgarde.

 :z18

Jim

Mike Barrio

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #18 on: 11/01/2008 at 22:51 »
I want to say yes ........... but :z6

Tricky one for me to comment on, but I will. In my experience at the fishery one of the biggest problems that beginners come up against is frustration, frustration that they can't cast well enough and then their confidence drops and they find it hard to catch ........ forum members will, I'm sure, back me up in saying confidence catches fish :wink

More often than not, this is down to "kit fly lines" which are frequently rubbish :z7 Your fly line is possibly your most important item of tackle :wink

If the 3 fly lines are good quality, fine! If they are not, they could ruin your fun :z6

I cannot comment on what the 3 lines in this case are for obvious reasons ( hopefully the other forum members can help you there ) but I will say that one good fly line is worth more to you than 10 bad ones!

If you are not sure ........ then I would buy the reel and look for a good fly line :wink

Best wishes
Mike

Sandy Nelson

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #19 on: 12/01/2008 at 10:22 »
Dave i would have to agree with Mike on this

Your line IS the MOST important item as regards your ability to cast and the enjoyment you will get.
I go so far as to actually build rods to match lines, it sounds daft but if you find a line you really get on with its worth building your gear around it.
A good line casts well on any rod.
And they dont have to cost much, a lot of cheaper lines are OK, very much its a case of hit and miss, its the same with Millends and seconds, some people swear by them as you get a great deal, however anyone who is honest will tell you they get more bad/average lines than a decent one.

You must have a reel already, so do you have a spool for it? can you get one? or is it cheaper to buy another basic reel often about a tenner.

Then spend the rest on a Mallard floater and a Moorhen Intermediate, it might sound like a sales pitch, but quite a few of us on the forum helped Mike to develop the lines and they are a genuine performance bargain. Plus you can try them out first at Haddo to see which  size suits you and your gear, this is worth waiting for  :z16
They will make your fishing feel better and more enjoyable. It does make a real difference.

Sandy

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #20 on: 12/01/2008 at 11:40 »
Sandy

My reel at the moment is an "Intrepid Rimfly" i dont know what weight it is but it has is "Reg" on the underside of the part that fits on to the rod. I dont think you'd get spools for it now as its approx 26 years old (yes thats how long ago i tried fishing).

My line is a Shakespear WTF 7 floating.

Rod is a Shakespear 9.5ft 7/8.


Just had a look on ebay for intrepid rimfly and found 3 reels the same as mine and they're all under £10 so i guess i'd be best off buying 1 or 2 and spending the rest on lines, but as i already got a floating i guess i only need to get a intermediate or would i really use a sinking?


Dave

Iain Goolager

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #21 on: 12/01/2008 at 17:14 »
Dave,

Purchasing equipment when starting out is a nightmare if you have no one to offer good advice - I have in the past received excellent information on products from tackle suppliers BUT have also seen newcomers given shockingly poor direction when purchasing their first complete set up.


Firstly before going further I'd like to say that IMHO I would advocate that a 6 weight outfit is far more pleasurable and versatile for fishery or river fishing (trout/Grayling) than a 7 or 8 weight outfit - I too started out with 7/8 weight outfits and progressed downwards to a 6 weight approx. 10 -15 years ago. I won a 7 weight outfit in a comp. 2 years ago - used it once and it has not seen the light of day since.....too much like hard work! It'll have it's day with the Sea-Trout or Pike (if I ever get round to it). 

I don't want to sound as if I'm in any way an authority ( 'cos I'm definitely not) but these are the questions that I would be asking if had to introduce you to the sport.

Rather that buying reels and line to fit your existing rod and then finding out that the rod type or weight (line size that is) is not to you liking - is there anyone you know that can loan you an outfit/s so that you can see what suits you best?

I have in my possession a Greys GRX Reel c/w 2 spare spools - one spool has an Aiflo 6WF Ridge line 'Floater' already fitted, one spool has some form of clear intermediate line fitted - most probably a WF6 and a Greys, the final spare spool is empty. This reel has hardly been used is desined to take line sizes 5/6.  Another option (completely up to you) is that you can have the above items FOC but you will have to source a rod to use then with. I leave it up to you.

Today you are trying lures but I can assure you that with the encouragement and advice and that you are receiving from the experienced other Forum members you will be fishing buzzers, nymphs and dries as the season progresses, and I assure you the lighter weight outfit will come into its' own.

let me know if you want the reel and associated bits.

Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #22 on: 12/01/2008 at 18:57 »
Goolager,

Thanks for the offer I dont know whether to take you up on it or not.

I just replaced my old rod (same age as my reel 26+yrs) as it started to crack, i just bought a shakespere 9 1/2 ft 7/8 as my lines was already wtf7.

I got it from sloans but dont think they would exchange for a 5/6 (even thouh its only been used twice) espically if i dont buy a reel.

Decisions decisions  :z8

Dave

Iain Goolager

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #23 on: 12/01/2008 at 22:14 »
Hi Dave,

I fully understand your dilema, so here's what I propose - I'll loan you a Sharpes 'Gordon' 9' 6Wt rod and the reel c/w spools and lines as previously discussed, that way you will have a comparison between the 6wt and 7/8 wt rods.
You may decide that this suits you better, if so the deal still stands that you can have the reel c/w spools/ lines F.O.C. & you will have to source a rod yourself.
If you prefer your own outfit then no harm done.

I'm very flexible regarding the duration of the loan period as it may take a while to truly test things under various conditions.

One thing I meant to mention before when you asked if a sinking line was necessary........I personally don't have one and no local fisheries spring to mind that can not be fished effectively, all year round, with the use of floater, intermediate, weighted flies, poly-leaders (super fast sink, fast sink, slow sink, intermediate, etc). I'm sure you have a growing wish list of tackle & I'd suggest that you use any funds you have to get yourself the necessities first.

Some people reach for a 'sinker' as soon as Autumn comes to an end and it stays a firm favourite until spring arrives - we are all different.

I'm sure I'll be hearing from you


Dave Mundie

Re: Waulkmill tomorrow (Fri 11th Jan)
« Reply #24 on: 13/01/2008 at 00:36 »
Goolager,

Where are you based I'm in pitmedden is that anywhere near you?

Dave.

 




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