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Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #50 on: 18/02/2013 at 20:07 »
Well I've made a start to Tying up some Tungsten Nymphs.

@Spiderman - Yes they are Barbless  :wink

@Goolager - I have only tied up 8 of each instead of 12's.  :z4



Alex

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #51 on: 18/02/2013 at 21:21 »
Great MB cripple Iain, is that a tested pattern for you or a prospective one. I reckon a size 12 JT Olive would work too ? Have been working on my MB nymphs, a few possibly needing a haircut but happy with size and profile ! Carp pic again, dunno what is happening..


Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #52 on: 18/02/2013 at 22:03 »
Lindz,

enough already with the pages from  'A pictorial Guide to British Ephemeroptera' By Craig Macadam & Cyril Bennett

very nice flies though  :z16 , I take it you're splitting your thread for 'dubbing' the CDC legs? only I can't tell because you are concentrating more on featuring the picture of the nymph as displayed in the publication 'A pictorial Guide to British Ephemeroptera' By Craig Macadam & Cyril Bennett  :z7
What's the body material?
Are you using oiler puffs for the thorax/legs combo?

Alex,

Nice weighted nymphs there  :z16, you will have to do some small ones, which I have found handy for when the rivers down to it's bones.

Iain

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #53 on: 18/02/2013 at 22:25 »
What you calling small Mr G?  :wink

Alex

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #54 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:02 »
size 18 with a 1.5mm tungsten bead and I have gone down to size 20 (fished duo method) with a 1mm (if memory serves me well) tungsten bead, but 18 defo.

Iain

Jan Keur

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #55 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:04 »
Bonny Spiders and catchy nymphs Dan!!

Thanks for sharing the pics and the info about the barbless Veniard hooks!!

Gonna try to get some too!

Gr

Jan

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #56 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:06 »
Cheers Iain,

I was planning on #16's with a 2mm bead next but will grab some 1.5mm beads & go down to #18's.

Alex

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #57 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:15 »
very nice flies though  :z16 , I take it you're splitting your thread for 'dubbing' the CDC legs? Are you using oiler puffs for the thorax/legs combo?

Hook: Size 12 FO Curved Barbless Standard
Weight: Orvis fine lead, two layers at thorax and flattened in vice
Body :Pheasant Tail
Tail: Coq de Leon Achonada....Anchovy or something
Rib: Fine Gold Wire
Wing Case: Brown Scudback
Thorax: Hare Fur
Legs: CDC Puffs (split thread)


It is basically JT's  :oops MB Nymph but using your oiler puffs (maybe you should tell JT ?  :wink).

Book used just to show scale and profile  :wink Will try a better in the vice pic tomorrow in sunlight.

BTW "Jingler" as in the Tweed/Clyde dry fly thingy, not an adapter dry - nae idea whit that is !  :z8

L

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #58 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:20 »
 Yeah, 16's too Alex.

Last season, I'll not go into great detail but on 3 occasions I watched pods of Trout in low clear water inspecting my emergers, spiders and nymphs (14's) really interesting but infuriating. After exhausting the usual suspects I trolled my fly box for anything suitably small and unobtrusive. Nil Joy, until rifling through my waistcoat I came across a hook box with some wee nymphs size 20, basically a Hares Ear with an orange collar. Threw the fly out and 1st cast................nowt happened  :z7 but either second or third cast a fish took, splashed about and was off.
No point after that as they had all vanished but at least I got a fish to take, may have been the pattern but I'm convinced that size was more important.

Be prepared  dib dib dib

Iain

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #59 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:23 »
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not an adapter dry - nae idea whit that is !


And I'll no be telling you either. 

FO  :roll  mind's gone blank, help me out, what make?

Iain

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #60 on: 18/02/2013 at 23:26 »
And I'll no be telling you either. 

FO  :roll  mind's gone blank, help me out, what make?

Only if you tell me what an adapter dry is first !

L

danbruce

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #61 on: 19/02/2013 at 12:09 »
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Thanks for sharing the pics and the info about the barbless Veniard hooks!!


No problem Jan, have also been using Knapek barbless hooks, very similar to the Veniard ones, only thing to watch out for on the Knapek ones is that the hook eye isn't always the best finish. But nothing a pair of pliers won't fix.

Iain, Alex and Lindsay,

Thats some awesome tying :z16, March brown patterns and small nymphs (16 to 20) is not something i have many of in my boxes, better get tying again.

Dan

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #62 on: 19/02/2013 at 12:25 »
Hi Dan,

I was assuming that Knapeks have changed/ improved in the last few years.  The wire on the eyes didn't mate very and I've had an experience with a soft one  :shock

I've quite a few that I'll not use, if you want them.

Iain

danbruce

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #63 on: 19/02/2013 at 12:41 »
Hi Iain,

The Knapek hooks that i have seem pretty strong when tying on them in the vice, not had the chance to try them on too many fish though. Will drop you a PM about your ones.

Cheers,

Dan

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #64 on: 19/02/2013 at 19:36 »
1st go at copying the nymph from your preferred handbook Lindz, & not a JT in sight




off to work on the body and wing case.

Iain

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #65 on: 19/02/2013 at 20:21 »
Iain

That a better size for you? not as good as your one above but I think they might catch fish.




Alex

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #66 on: 19/02/2013 at 20:35 »
1st go at copying the nymph from your preferred handbook Lindz, & not a JT in sight

off to work on the body and wing case.

Nice effort Iain  :z16 I tied a few with bead heads but felt they just didn't look right (to me) so stuck with the superglued wire and flattening the thorax in the vice. You know, JT's flies are first rate, easy and quick to tie, robust and catch loadsa fish. I fished only a JT Olive and DHE all last season and high confidence over surface feeding fish. I reckon his MB nymphs will be killer too.

Have had a total mofo of a day so nae pics o' mine. Will try later after shopping !

L

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #67 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:18 »
Iain (Mr G)

That's the Duo box looking a lot better now:




Wonder what's on the menu for tomorrow?


Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #68 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:24 »
2nd attempt at something I'd cover with a PTN anyway  



Hi Alex,
Nice flies but if I may be so bold I'd loose 3/4 of the tail density? maybe someone else has a different opinion? what do you think yourself?

keep em coming though  :z16

Iain


Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #69 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:27 »
Actually Alex, after seeing them in the box I'd only loose 1/3 of the tail fibres  :z16  nice!

What's next?

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #70 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:32 »
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JT's flies are first rate, easy and quick to tie

JT this JT that!   ZX2

2 separate stages of tied in lead wire? supergluin' and flattening?

Tie a PTN and use up the saved time to read up on CDC Gel  :z7 :X2

Iain

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #71 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:33 »
You mean you canna guess from the picture I posted?  "JT Olives"

Yes agree have a habbit of tying with 4 or 5 Pheasant fibres when I should use 3  :oops
and Hare's Ear I am worse I think.

Think it's because I tie up a big size first then when I drop 2 or 3 sizes I am still grabbing
the same amount of tail material... :oops

"Note to self" "Must do better"

Thanks for the feedback Iain.

Alex

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #72 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:34 »
I see the 103's arrived Alex, F-Flies per chance?

Iain

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #73 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:35 »
JT Olives? not you as well Alex  :X1

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #74 on: 19/02/2013 at 21:37 »
JT Olives? not you as well Alex  :X1

 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

JT's flies are first rate, easy and quick to tie  :wink :X2

Alex

 




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