Fishing The Fly Scotland Forum

Allan Liddle

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #25 on: 30/01/2013 at 13:57 »
Yup, a CDC and Elk Size 12 swinging subsurface netted me a 3 lb BT and ST in 2011  :oops I honestly think fish take a submerged CDC and Elk as a Minnow (as well as Caddis) and sma' ones will snap at it on the retrieve (for all you competition anglers that might get desperate !). However, aesthetically it is like playing a violin with a cheesegrater compared with the dolce tones of upstream spidering/dries !

Of, course I am strictly upstream dry fly now you understand ! No offence taken Marc, afterall I am a reformed 'swinger' these days  :wink The boy Johann's vids are very good IMO, the stuff in Sweden and Norway is pretty cool  :z16


On a typical early Spring Don day with no fish showing you either sit out waiting for a hatch ( as I did last season) or you drown wets and nymphs and search (me this season) !

L

Bob Wyatt's Dirty Duster deadly as a mixed dry / swinging wet when required.  DHE not bad in fast water, a good wee minor tactic is to hit the water hard to drown it and run it through just sub surface, especially if you've turned a fish on it previously.  Sorry if i'm giving it how to suck eggs btw.  :oops

Allan Liddle

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #26 on: 30/01/2013 at 14:03 »
PS Cracking looking flees Sandy, would work a treat on the Spey i bet.

Oh and another wee minor tactic with the DHE, if some fish are coming but shying away, whilst others are still taking well (especially during early hatch stages) then NZ style with another DHE on the tail, only clip the wing right down to a stump, or rip it off leaving a few wee sparse hairs in place.  Fish will often take it this way as an emerging nymph.

Sometimes works if a fish isn't playing ball and giving you the run arouns as well.  For me if this dosen't work then i just lob in a boulder and move onto the next target.  :z4 :z4

Mark Zhang

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #27 on: 31/01/2013 at 09:30 »
Thanks for your help. I think it's time to  :z2 and catch the  :z15. Can't wait the season to start. Thanks again.  :z18

Regards,

Mark

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #28 on: 31/01/2013 at 13:17 »
... then NZ style with another DHE on the tail, only clip the wing right down to a stump, or rip it off leaving a few wee sparse hairs in place.  Fish will often take it this way as an emerging nymph.

I notice in his new tome Wyatt has a Wee Hair Emerger which sounds like just the ticket for that tactic Allan (and to save blootering those 'sometimes hard to get right' upright Deer Hair Emerger wings) ! He also mentions the Don Brown Trout Fishing with absolute reverance calling it a "technical river" ! His prefered killing fly for the Don is a size 10 DHS to ape a March Brown Dun/Emerger (never tried that tactic, but will now !).

But you will know this anyway as you have the book, hopefully of interest to others !

Lindsay

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #29 on: 31/01/2013 at 18:56 »
Some cracking sparse doubles and heavy tubes.  :z16

I need to get the vise out.

The clock is ticking

Iain

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #30 on: 03/02/2013 at 15:17 »
Well that's me started stocking up for the new season, planning to try using
the Duo as explained by John Tyzack in his Early Season Trout DVD


Balloon Caddis (Tan - 14s & Fiery Brown 12s).


Starting Big (Size 16 Pearly Spiders)


Bit rough but getting better, been too long since I tied flies

Tungsten Bead PTN's & Sparse Spiders next on my list.

 Alex

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #31 on: 04/02/2013 at 12:33 »

Starting to look a lot better now - Size 18 Pearly Spider

Mike Barrio

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #32 on: 04/02/2013 at 12:36 »
They'll work Alex :z16

Cheers
Mike

Allan Liddle

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #33 on: 04/02/2013 at 13:39 »
The rougher the better Alex i like the look of those spiders it can be deadly.  :z16
Try just the one or two turns max on the hackle, also tie the lurex in at the head, wind down and then back up again then tie off and then give it a very thin coat of superglue, then a thin coat of varnish over this.  Gives a slim but very shiny body, helps the fly sink quickly and protects it from marauding troots teeth.  Takes a wee bit longer, but offers a wee bit different.  Worth having both tying styles in the flybox btw as essentially is can make a difference when fishing.  :z16

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #34 on: 04/02/2013 at 14:23 »
Thanks Alan will give that a go.  :z16

Also plan to tie up some JT Olives but waiting on size 17 & 19 Tiemco 103BL hooks to arrive.

Alex

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #35 on: 09/02/2013 at 10:08 »
A few more tied up ready for the box









Last one seemed like a good idea in my head!!!! :oops

Alex

Sandy Nelson

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #36 on: 09/02/2013 at 10:20 »
Looks like a good idea in my head also :z18

Bonny wee flies Alex, But barbs.................. come on :z4 :z4 :z4

Cheers

Sandy

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #37 on: 09/02/2013 at 10:25 »
Waiting on Tiemco barbless hooks, should be at home when I get there 103BL's !!!

Had to work with what I had.  :oops

They will all be de-barbed before I go fishing  :wink...de-barbing pliers at home also!!!!!!  :oops

Alex


Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #38 on: 09/02/2013 at 14:36 »
Nice, Alex.

Still tying in bulk I see, those balloon caddis will last you a decade - unless you are handing them out that is  :roll 

Iain

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #39 on: 09/02/2013 at 14:39 »
My wee drying bridge takes 12 at a time!!!! what can I say... it's easier by the Dozen!!! :wink
Always someone looking to borrow on a long term basis!!!  :X2 :z4 :z4 :z4

Alex

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #40 on: 09/02/2013 at 15:19 »
I've been lax at the vise Alex but even though I should be tying tubes I'm really looking forward to fishing some new nimpffs






Iain

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #41 on: 09/02/2013 at 15:29 »
Also plan to tie up some JT Olives but waiting on size 17 & 19 Tiemco 103BL hooks to arrive.

 :z4  :z4 They don't work, totally rubbish I have been lying  :wink

Grip 11011BL's are also good Alex, possibly better but are in "even" sizes

Ean yoor flies are better than your attempts at graphic humour ! :z7

Lindsay

PS you WILL need Frog's Fanny for the JT's.......unless you want to ruin them with Oil or Gel  :z7

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #42 on: 09/02/2013 at 15:54 »

PS you WILL need Frog's Fanny for the JT's.......unless you want to ruin them with Oil or Gel  :z7


 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Alex Burnett

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #43 on: 09/02/2013 at 15:58 »
Aye Iain

I like the look of the second one...

I'm planning on doing Tungsten beaded PTNs on BARBLESS hooks by the Dozen soon
unfortunately work has got in the way of full on tying :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

At least I have JT's "Small Stream Trout Fishing" & "Early Season Trout Fishing" DVDs
to keep me going.


Alex

Loxiafan

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #44 on: 17/02/2013 at 00:06 »
Managed to (finally) get some Golden Plover skins so Hare's Lug and Plover size 12 ala March Brown (with a touch of pearly tinsel on butt) - not a great pic  :roll. Really liking the Partridge Spider hooks  :z16



L

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #45 on: 18/02/2013 at 00:23 »
Nice Spiders Lindz,

On the topic of MB's.....






Iain

Barry Robertson

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #46 on: 18/02/2013 at 00:31 »
Very tidy Iain, nice looking flee! Is that wee puff of cdc meant to keep it afloat?

Iain Goolager

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #47 on: 18/02/2013 at 00:42 »
Hi Baz  :z16

With a drop of CDC Gel this puppy will float bo problem.

Without going back through all the CDC Gel/Oil stuff............I used to tie all CDC flies with 5 feathers due to my infuriation with CDC flies drowning, now it's 3 for 95% of the time and 4 if a particularly heavy hook or dressing.

Iain

Note: was referring to general early season Olive/ upwing patterns with the 3 feathers reference, smaller patterns e.g. F flies imitating smaller olives can have 2 or a single feather.






Barry Robertson

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #48 on: 18/02/2013 at 00:52 »
What hook are you using in thon foto??

Marc Fauvet

Re: Re-stocking for 2013
« Reply #49 on: 18/02/2013 at 12:42 »
super-nice one, Iain !  :z16

 




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