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Mike Barrio

Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« on: 31/07/2010 at 16:35 »
Diawl Bach or Cruncher ...... which is best?

Jim Eddie

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #1 on: 31/07/2010 at 20:22 »
I like them both  :wink

 :z18

Jim

Alex Burnett

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #2 on: 31/07/2010 at 23:01 »
Diawl Bach or Cruncher ...... which is best?

Diawl Bach, preferably with a red rib :wink :wink

Alex

Dutchfly

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #3 on: 01/08/2010 at 09:55 »
For me, no contest: Diawl Bach.

CU

Jeroen

Iain Goolager

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #4 on: 02/08/2010 at 23:31 »
What's a cruncher?

Mike Barrio

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #5 on: 03/08/2010 at 00:08 »

Colin Davidson

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #6 on: 03/08/2010 at 20:07 »
Diawl Bach with green rib for me over the crunchers 95% of the time, especially when searching as part of a team of nymphs or inbetween a coule of buzzers. that being said i took a crack ing 6lb blue on a red rib DB not so long ago, and another chap that evening had plenty of sport on "a wee cruncher".

Cheers

Colin.

Mike Barrio

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #7 on: 03/08/2010 at 20:30 »
Must confess that I prefer the profile of the Crunchers, that full "spider like" front hackle gives me confidence :wink

I've seen some very poor flies described as Crunchers in catalogues lately though :z6

Cheers
Mike

Iain Goolager

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #8 on: 03/08/2010 at 21:00 »
Quote
Must confess that I prefer the profile of the Crunchers, that full "spider like" front hackle gives me confidence

Most successful nymph for me this season has been a PTN with a short, soft brown hackle - just makes the difference I think.

Iain

Barry Robertson

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #9 on: 28/10/2010 at 23:01 »
Most successful nymph for me this season has been a PTN with a short, soft brown hackle - just makes the difference I think.

Iain

That sounds like a cruncher without a  hen tail Iain  :wink
I have been a convert to crunchers over the last couple of seasons! Great for fish feeding just sub surface!
Last time i was up at haddo i had 4 browns and each one of them nailled the cruncher  :wink
Whether its the pattern or the depth they are fished at , the fish sure like em  :wink

Mike Barrio

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #10 on: 28/10/2010 at 23:11 »
I think it is worth experimenting with giving any good Diawl Bach pattern a Cruncher style full hackle :z17

Cheers
Mike

Noel Kelly

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #11 on: 29/10/2010 at 06:39 »
Hmmm I rarely fish either, must address that.

Irvine Ross

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #12 on: 29/10/2010 at 12:24 »
 I'm a bit confused about these cruncher things. Anybody care to tell me what the difference is between a cruncher and a spider? I looked up a few so called cruncher patterns on the web and one of them was pretty close to what I know as an Endrick spider, a pattern that has been on the go for a long time.

Irvine

Peter McCallum

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #13 on: 29/10/2010 at 15:32 »
Isn't it stranger how many 'new' flies are reinventions or vartiations of  old flies ? We use our brains :?, skills, time & energy to develop new patterns and find some old git has used his skill, time, etc 50 or more years ago and arrived at exactly the same solution :roll

Mike Barrio

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #14 on: 29/10/2010 at 17:59 »
Isn't it stranger how many 'new' flies are reinventions or vartiations of  old flies ? We use our brains :?, skills, time & energy to develop new patterns and find some old git has used his skill, time, etc 50 or more years ago and arrived at exactly the same solution :roll

Don't tell the fish! :z13

Barry Robertson

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #15 on: 29/10/2010 at 18:12 »
I'm a bit confused about these cruncher things. Anybody care to tell me what the difference is between a cruncher and a spider? I looked up a few so called cruncher patterns on the web and one of them was pretty close to what I know as an Endrick spider, a pattern that has been on the go for a long time.

Irvine

Confused is good Irvine  :z4
I think a run of the mill cruncher these days would be along theses lines:

Hook - size 12 B175
Black thread
Tail - greenwells hen
body - pheasant tail
Rib - red wire
Cheeks - silver holo tinsel
Thorax - pheasant tail
Hackle - greenwells hen

You can also mix things up and use quill as the body or whatever else you fancy , the variants are endless and at the end of the day its just a nymph!


Cheers
Baz
 :z18

Mike Barrio

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #16 on: 29/10/2010 at 18:17 »
Cracking photo Baz ..... did you take that? :z16

Cheers
Mike

Barry Robertson

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #17 on: 29/10/2010 at 18:25 »
Sure did Mike , I am learning  :wink

Stuart Smith

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #18 on: 30/10/2010 at 11:08 »
who's flie is it Baz? 


hahaha

stuart

Barry Robertson

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #19 on: 30/10/2010 at 17:12 »
Funnily enough it came off my vice stuart  :z4

Jim Eddie

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #20 on: 30/10/2010 at 17:31 »
I like the look of that flee Baz  :z16

 :z18

Jim

John Reid

Re: Diawl Bach or Cruncher?
« Reply #21 on: 01/11/2010 at 17:56 »
Very artistic Baz.

I wouldn't know whether to frame it or fish it  :z7

 




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