[Mike Barrio]

Hi Cammy

Yes, I really like the Tiemco ones too. I can get the TMC3769SPBL from Fulling Mill as I already have an account there for flies But they retail at £5.25 for a pack of 20, which my calcu-traitor tells me is about 26p per hook

The Lakeland X100 for £8 deal is suddenly more appealing ( although I see they are only listing the TMC3769 )  and they had none of these in stock

Hmmm ............................

So, it looks like none of the "big guns" in the fly retailing sector are willing to take a risk and produce a barbless fly range and yes, fly tying barbless hooks are available, at a price, and in a pretty limited range of types in the UK market?

Interesting topic this one

[Rob Brownfield]

I have read this with a bit of a look of confusion on my face. Why not just debarb the available patterns?

I understand it would be nice to be able to buy barbless, but i don't have an issue with debarbing fly hooks and trebles.
I like the slight bump that de barbing leaves as I think this helps keep the hook in place when a fish jumps, but still allows it to me removed with ease.

I seem to recall an article that was on the Partridge website, saying barbless where harder to make. Something to do with the hook being held in the machine. IIRC the machine cuts the barb and uses it to lock the hook in the machine while it bends. Without the barb the machine cant grip. Something like that anyway.

[Paul Rankine]

Fulling Mill Scorpion Fly Hooks - Barbless Nymph (31810) in Bulk   sizes 8 - 16  - Tacklebargains.co.uk

@£20 + P+P for 1000 of each size.

Paul .

[Duncan McRae]

Hi folks

I'd be interested to know if anyone has had success fishing barbless for seatrout?

A few summers ago,during a spell of low water, i was having real difficulty reviving seatrout when returning them to the river.
I decided to de-barb my fly hooks so that i could release the fish while still in the water.Unfortunately,by the end of my first "barbless" nights fishing i was back using barbed hooks, having lost several good seatrout.
Given the acrobatic and unpredictable nature of a hooked seatrout i have concluded that barbless does not work for seatrout.I'd love to be proved wrong.

Duncan

 

[Rob Brownfield]

Given the acrobatic and unpredictable nature of a hooked seatrout i have concluded that barbless does not work for seatrout.I'd love to be proved wrong.

Which is why I prefer debarbed rather than barbless. The little bump that is left really helps the hook hold better, especially if the fly hooks into the hard "scissors" of the mouth. The hook still pops out easy when you want it too.

The hook shape also has a bearing on how good a hold it gets. You only have to look at Carp hooks to see how curved shanks have been developed to dig deep and hold well.

Sometimes I have struggled to remove small buzzers from trout when the buzzer has been dressed on a Buzzer/grub type hook.

With long shank hooks the fish has the ability to lever out the hook by using the shank. Wether this is intentional or not does not matter as the result is the same.

Lastly, the shape of the point can have an effect on the hold.

This is the old patern Ad Swier hook, renowned for a great hook hold...




and this is the new version...note the point shape...and this hook has a bad name for fish dropping off...

[Mike Barrio]

Hi folks

Dohiku Hooks - HDN 302

I think we have found our wet fly hook. I got them from Phil at Spiders Plus from his new website at www.flytyingboutique.com. When you open the website, follow the "Shop" link, then the "Hooks" link, then the "DOHIKU" link, read the blurb then click on the "DOHIKU" image link, then you want the second image down on the left, the one for the hook model "HDN302".

I already have some of these hooks and I think they are just what I was looking for ...... and Phil has very kindly offered to give forum members some discount so you can try them out for yourselves, just enter "BARRIO" in the promo code box in the checkout, click on apply code and you will get a 10% saving for all orders placed before 31 December 2009

Some of the other hook models also look very interesting and worth trying

In my experience, Phil offers a first class mail order service!

Hope you find these useful
Best wishes
Mike

[Iain Goolager]

14's and 16's ordered.

Cheers Mike

Iain

[Mike Barrio]

14's and 16's ordered.

Cheers Mike

Iain

Great stuff Iain

I hope you like them.

Cheers
Mike

[Rob Brownfield]

Owwwwww..they look nice..very nice indeed! That last hook on the second page, the Klinkhammer one..wow!

[Iain Goolager]

Knapeks at it again!!
View My Video

[Mike Barrio]

Knapeks at it again!!
View My Video

Hmmm, not good, I haven't seen a hook do that before

They had a good reputation too

Cheers
Mike

[Iain Goolager]

Mike,

That's the 1st in 10 ties over the last two days with the Knapek Nymph. It's the reason I stopped using them before and if my memory serves me well the ratio before may have been similar.
As I bought them all at the same time (from the same batch? fairly likely) it may have been a QA/QC issue.

I had the exact same issue with a Fulling Mill 31550 or 31180 but it was just the one hook.
Fortunately they don't pass the strains imposed during the tying process.

do you think Uri Geller buys his spoons from them?    

Iain

[buzzer]

Hi Mike,
           Have used the HDG 644 for tying buzzers and find them great no problems at all.

   Tom.

[Mike Barrio]

Hi Mike,
           Have used the HDG 644 for tying buzzers and find them great no problems at all.

   Tom.

Great stuff Tom

Yes, that looks like a nice hook too

Best wishes
Mike

[Ben Dixon]

Knapeks at it again!!
View My Video

Iain,

Heat them up in a gas flame then plunge them into cold water, should sort out the problem.  May make them brittle but I have never had a hook snap on me.  I do this quite a lot with very small fine wired dry fly hooks to prevent them straightening on big fish.

Cheers

Ben

[Mike Barrio]

A number of you bought the Dohiku hooks from Phil ....... How have you found them, now that you've had time to tie loads of flies with them and catch a few fish?

Cheers
Mike