[Sandy Nelson]

The topic about dry fly tips on the main forum, got me thinking

So here is a little tip for tying tails and getting them to sit up and the fly to sit down, with a nice footprint
Many of you may use it already, but its handy and simple, pity about the pictures with the fingers, but i'll work on getting them better (have had a go )

Tie in 4/5 fibres of Coq de leon


Put one turn of silk under the fibres


Slide the thread up the shank


Pull the turn up to the bottom of the fibres and let them splay out


Tie down any loose fibres and spread them gently


finish off the rest of the fly how ever you want



Sandy

[Cameron deBoth]

Thats a great tip sandy, thanks for sharing.

[Iain Goolager]

Sandy,

do you think that the price tag attached to C-D-Leon is justified? or does it have floating qualities that merit the price? just asking as I tied some John Tyzak CDC Olives but substituted the C-D-L for microfibbets.

Iain

[Sandy Nelson]

Iain

I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to feathers over synthetics .
I always founds microfibbets to be too stiff, the Coq de leon is softer and has a natural sheen as well as being pleasantly coloured.
As for the cost, well i bought a packet with 10 feathers about 4 years ago and i still half of them, each feather make a lot of flies when you use 4-5 fibres.
You dont need more and it wasn't that expensive
Pardo flor de scoba is the Colour
And it makes great tails for CDC spiders and small baetis type nymphs (both tied in the same manner as above)

Sandy

[Alex Burnett]

Iain

I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to feathers over synthetics .
I always founds microfibbets to be too stiff, the Coq de leon is softer and has a natural sheen as well as being pleasantly coloured.
As for the cost, well i bought a packet with 10 feathers about 4 years ago and i still half of them, each feather make a lot of flies when you use 4-5 fibres.
You dont need more and it wasn't that expensive
Pardo flor de scoba is the Colour
And it makes great tails for CDC spiders and small baetis type nymphs (both tied in the same manner as above)

Sandy

I have to agree with Sandy natural is always better than synthetic, colour is less regular which is more like the real thing & it also gives better movement & normally less weight. 

Coq de leon makes pretty good tails for Alder imitations by the way.    

Alex

[Iain Goolager]

Sold!

fair play, I'll get some and give them ago. Maybe Orvis have some.

Do I have to ask for the 'Padre flour del scuba' in a foreign accent?


Catman,

why didn't you tell me that before I used a tiny grizzle hackle for my Alder tails (I know it's unconventional but whenever could I be accused of making sense?)
Oh! and what did you use for your legs? (Alder legs that is).

Iain

[Sandy Nelson]

What tails?

 

[Barry Robertson]

Never used it before to be honest!
have actually used more foam than anything else! especially for emergers and foam head buzzers or lum heeds as i call them.
Hold there till i get a pic up of these bad boys  

[Sandy Nelson]

Iain

If they don't http://www.lakelandflytying.com/1560/products/Coq_de_Leon.aspx

Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

Lum heed hares ear size 14 i thinks -

[Iain Goolager]

Sandy,

you need to revisit the picture you posted bud! they clearly had thin white taily things sticking out of their bottoms. (or do I need to spend my chritmas Specsaver vouchers?)

cheers for the lakeland link

[Alex Burnett]

Iain

Knotted Goose Biots.

Alex

[Sandy Nelson]

You mean like Baz's buzzer

I think you are looking at the gills

Alders don't have tails per-se, mind you if there are any entomologists out there to correct this, i'm willing to learn

Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

Thats just a wee white biot in that tail works good as a shuck or whatever the fish want it be

[Iain Goolager]

Defo not like Baz's buzzer

Baz, you could have removed the knot of leader before posting the photo - you're so lazy

OK Sandy I'll call the white filamenty breathery things down the flank - gills but from a fly tying standpoint (although not entomologically correct) I'm sticking with it having a white tail.......why am I arguing with a judge???

LuxemIain nil pwa

[Sandy Nelson]

 

[Iain Goolager]

Thanks Alex,

I'll have to try that.....lots to learn

Iain

[Barry Robertson]

I was in a hurry , shhhhhhhh!
 
This place is like a  fishing classroom!

[Sandy Nelson]

Better make sure you dont flunk this one then

[Barry Robertson]

No chance, the other half must have slapped me at least 3 times now telling me to get of the pc. She is now officially jelous of the forum 
 

[Alex Burnett]

What tails?

 

Aye yer probably right Sandy, I looked at them and thought the last 3 filaments were longer & resembled a tail apendage more than a continuation of the Gill area.



Alex

[Iain Goolager]

Thanks for your support Alex

[Sandy Nelson]

No chance, the other half must have slapped me at least 3 times now telling me to get of the pc. She is now officially jelous of the forum 
 

baz

Mike and i think you should grow a beard

[Barry Robertson]

Why lol, i normally have a fine winter ginger beard anyway at this time of the year!

[Sandy Nelson]

Whats this about ginger beer.

I thought it was the Alders that had no tails