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Sandy Nelson

Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« on: 16/10/2008 at 21:24 »
OK folks :z16

This year I figured we would actually use the power of the internet to set a challenge that can't be done by any other medium.

Inspired by Daniel's fascination for underwater life, Mr B and myself have been taking video footage (reasonable for two amateurs) of some of the insect life that lives at Haddo. The ultimate aim is to provide an online library of how the bugs swim and act in the water. We have done the Loch first but the river should follow eventually.

We also thought this would a great way to run this year's flytying challenge.

So the idea is, we will put up a couple of short videos of particular bugs doing what they do best. We will include some still photos of how the bugs look to gauge colours etc, but given that a trout's vision is not supposed to be as sharp as ours, hopefully our woeful attempts at photography are actually fairly representative of what the fish actually see. And we will include a small description of the insect, giving approximate sizes.

The marking categories for this years flytying event will be


1-Size/proportion

2-Tying skill/consistancy

3-Original/innovative use of materials

4-Movement/action (a description of how its intended to be fished to be included)

5-Imitation, will it look like the Bug (to the fish) when in use

Each category will be marked out of 5 you will have to tie 2 of each pattern you enter :z16.

Judges will be myself, Mr Barrio and the good Mr Young.

We are hoping you will all find it a fascinating insight into what the fish are seeing and just what our flies do when they are in the water. It is surprising just how some of them act, I learned a lot from just catching them and doing the videos and I've been studying bugs for years to help me understand what the fish are feeding on.

Mr B will post details of this year's prizes as well as the videos, as he has them on his machine.

Each month we hope to give everyone 6wks to get the flies in, so the first one will be for the end of November. This should allow some of our brothers of the angle whom reside more than a decent cast from the Don, a chance to get their entries in on time.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all find this as interesting a challenge as we think it is :z16

Sandy


Sandy Nelson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #1 on: 16/10/2008 at 21:35 »
The challenge for November.

The Corixa

You have already had a heads up on these little devils, in another post .

There are two insters for the little corixa,
The first stage is the nymphs, entirely aquatic and yellowish coloured underneath.
The adult stage can actually fly and have white undersides.
The trout will take both with conviction, although there are times when they will definatley favour one or the other.
Apart from the colour the only other difference is the size, the Nymphs are from 5mm to 10mm in length and 2mm to 3mm wide.
The adults are usually between 10mm and 12mm and 3mm to 4mm in width.
They have a very distinctive motion, you decide what you think is the most important feature of this and at what point the trout are most likely to intercept them. The criteria are explained in the very first post.

Have fun :z18

Sandy






Barry Robertson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #2 on: 17/10/2008 at 17:59 »
Are we trying to make a copy of the corixa or can we do jazzed up versions :z1

Hamish Young

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #3 on: 17/10/2008 at 18:07 »
Sandys' first post kind of covers the criteria  :z16

Jazzed up or not, the marking categories are an indication of what we hope to see but how you interpret each challenge is up to you  :wink

Hamish  :z3

Iain Goolager

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #4 on: 21/10/2008 at 10:32 »
Right!,

That's mine done. Had a problem with the legs/paddles so have resorted to a basic concept - pity as I recon that the paddles will be the most innovative aspect, apart from that I'm reasonably happy with the pattern.

Mike I'll drop them off soon

Iain

Cameron deBoth

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #5 on: 21/10/2008 at 12:20 »
Ive got an idea of what I want to do, now just need to work out how/what to complete my plan. Oh and also find the Time to actually tie them lol

Really looking forward to this  :z7

Phil Slessor

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #6 on: 22/10/2008 at 10:23 »
HI all
found  this on the  web

Corixa

 
Hook: Tiemco 5230 # 14
Thread: Black 8.0 or 10.0
Shellback: Strip of black foam
Body: Black oval plastic bead
Paddles: 2 black or brown goose biots
Head: Turns of tread and nail-varnish



 



Phil Slessor

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #7 on: 22/10/2008 at 10:26 »
sorry guys  cant get the picture to copy  :cry

Phil Slessor

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #8 on: 22/10/2008 at 10:28 »
 but  how  about  the link ( me daft or what ) dont answer that mike 
www.danica.com/flytier/rbelzen/corixa.htm

Sandy Nelson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #9 on: 22/10/2008 at 11:55 »
Rootnaboot

Interesting post, kind of defeats the object though :z6

 :z4

Sandy

Hamish Young

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #10 on: 22/10/2008 at 15:35 »
Originality/imagination is the key folks  :z16

Dutchfly

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #11 on: 22/10/2008 at 18:59 »
Now there's a challenge :z16

I'll try and send my flies in on time, this year :oops

Cheers,

Jeroen


Cameron deBoth

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #12 on: 29/10/2008 at 08:03 »
Tied one up last night, I must say its like a Frankenstien of flies. Need to re-think lol  :z4

Barry Robertson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #13 on: 29/10/2008 at 09:20 »
 :z6
This is not as is easy as it first seamed!

Cameron deBoth

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #14 on: 29/10/2008 at 10:08 »
:z6
This is not as is easy as it first seamed!

Hahahahah yea I had an awesome plan and it worked great "IN MY HEAD" different story when your at the vice!  :z7

Cameron deBoth

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #15 on: 29/10/2008 at 12:03 »
gonna have another look at it tonight  :roll

Barry Robertson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #16 on: 29/10/2008 at 12:17 »
Same here until i realised how hard body stretch (shelback) was to use , what a nightmare!

Paul Rankine

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #17 on: 29/10/2008 at 13:28 »
Hi All,
         Came across this which might help all you exact imitation guys  :shock

 http://www.hatches.tv/play.php?vid=325

Excellent magazine too by the way.

Happy tying !!

Paul.

Barry Robertson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #18 on: 29/10/2008 at 13:47 »
Looks good - if you scroll right down the fishing calendar looks better though!  :z4

Paul Rankine

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #19 on: 01/11/2008 at 14:29 »
 :z4




Sandy Nelson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #20 on: 06/11/2008 at 17:29 »
 :z4

However I think corixa boobies wont score.
Mind you if you can get the legs spread right. :shock

Depends what type of guy you are i suppose :z4 :z4

Sandy

Sandy Nelson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #21 on: 10/11/2008 at 21:09 »
I have the first couple of entries :z16

Nice flies, if everyone gets near the same mark this is going to be really hard to judge :z6

We'll have to get something up about wee prizes soon too.

Sandy

Cameron deBoth

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #22 on: 11/11/2008 at 17:47 »
OMG your gonna shit yourself when you guys see the MONSTER I just tied, its CRAZY hehe.  :z13

Gonna tie a more sensible one but will send this bad boy also!!! hehe actually might just use this one lol

Sandy Nelson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #23 on: 11/11/2008 at 18:03 »
but will send this bad boy also!!!

Make sure you put the right stamps on it :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Sandy

Barry Robertson

Re: Our 2008/09 Winter Flytying Challenge
« Reply #24 on: 11/11/2008 at 18:15 »
LOL You tell him sandy  :z16

 




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