[Derek McLaren]

The end of your flyline

Sandy

I love nymphing etc but there must be some skill involved when using indicators,they cant all be chuck it out and leave fishers.

If it means chucking it and leaving it sitting i might not make it my  2009 project after all 

[clark]

hey monksmyre i have used an indicator a fair bit in th last few years  mainly cause i couldnt detect the takes at the end of my floating line.There is some people who do just chuck every thing out and sit on a stool and wait but if use an indicator nowadays i will fish the rig just the same as i would without it . i would just use it to detect the more fiddely takes because i still havent mastered it . i would go with a big dry now though because i dont like the abominations that the manufacturers are coming up with , for example the thingamabobber which is basically a bubble float which i strongly disagree the use of unless its wee kids 
just experiment alot and always vary your depths
clark

[Derek McLaren]

hey monksmyre i have used an indicator a fair bit in th last few years  mainly cause i couldnt detect the takes at the end of my floating line.There is some people who do just chuck every thing out and sit on a stool and wait but if use an indicator nowadays i will fish the rig just the same as i would without it . i would just use it to detect the more fiddely takes because i still havent mastered it . i would go with a big dry now though because i dont like the abominations that the manufacturers are coming up with , for example the thingamabobber which is basically a bubble float which i strongly disagree the use of unless its wee kids 
just experiment alot and always vary your depths
clark

Cheers Clark,
Iwas oot the day at insch and caught fish on orange cheeked buzzers,I never used the indicator, i must give it a bash,I just want to feel the take to see what its like,

[Barry Robertson]

One thing to watch out for is if the idicator or dry is too big it will cause alot of resistance when the fish takes the fly which in turn might cause lots of mouthing of the fly but less hook ups!
A floating line has very little resistance which in turn alows the fish to take of with the fly giving you time to strike, resulting in a better hook up rate 
Did the make any sense??

[Mike Barrio]

Cheers Clark,
Iwas oot the day at insch and caught fish on orange cheeked buzzers,I never used the indicator, i must give it a bash,I just want to feel the take to see what its like,

Hi Derek

Good to see you caught some fish today

It's raining here tonight, so I'm hoping that will help to sort the loch out

Best wishes
Mike

[Derek McLaren]

Hi Derek

Good to see you caught some fish today

It's raining here tonight, so I'm hoping that will help to sort the loch out

Best wishes
Mike

Yeah mike it's pouring down here ,if it stays like this you will be able to open and let everbody have a play

[Sandy Nelson]

One thing to watch out for is if the idicator or dry is too big it will cause alot of resistance when the fish takes the fly which in turn might cause lots of mouthing of the fly but less hook ups!
A floating line has very little resistance which in turn alows the fish to take of with the fly giving you time to strike, resulting in a better hook up rate 

My sentiments exactly, I would even go so far as to say that lighter weight flylines improve the situation too
 

Sandy

[Jim Doyle]

From another place I know but worth a look http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=32972. some very interesting patterns .  jim

[Cameron deBoth]

Thats some nice looking buzzers.

Evenin' thrillseekers..

From the Buzzers in the classified section... for those of you who might wanna tie yer own Don't ask me for any tips though whilst I'm floggin them :rolleyes:

Most of these patterns followed on from the 'Brancusi' buzzer, which I entered into last seasons 'Buzzer Challenge', and some of you will have seen before. I tried to keep the form as pure and simple as possible, yet still suggestive of the pupal profile. The hook profile seemed to say it all, and would no doubt catch buzzer feeders fished bare. I don't believe a bare hook is a fly though, or cricket. I still needed the coloured and translucent thorax though, so I started working out from the hook, rather than onto it, and consequently ended up doing away completely with any 'materials' as such. A slow build up of varnish, and the feintest hint of ink at the thorax complemented the Hayabusa profile in a very pleasing way. The combo of red ink and varnish gives a lovely glow, and when transmitted in the water brings light and life that suggests the surge of blood to the thorax as the buzzer ascends prior to hatching.

Anyway, that's enough of that nonsense.. Yes, they work! I caught many fish on this incarnation of the Brancusi right through last season - being particularly effective in April/May/June.
 
 

[SIZE="4"]The 'Brancusi' Buzzer[/SIZE]

     

Same Buzzer - Different light


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[SIZE="4"]The 'Jelly Bean Buzzer'[/SIZE]

Another 'minimalistic' suggestive approach. This one followed on from the Brancusi, but with a bit more meat on the bone, and bringing more colour and translucency to the full profile.

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The next batched followed on from the 'Jelly Bean', with the addition of the cheeks/ 'wing buds' that appear on the natural prior to hatching, coupled with the surge of blood. Now we can get really specific with the colour combinations for when the fish get picky, or for those of you who wouldn't trust the simplicity of a 'Brancusi' !
Pointless giving any of the a name really, there's that many permutations possible.
 

'Solid Shuck'

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'Ribbed'

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A few options......

Tight lines

Rob

[Derek McLaren]

now that is what you call flytying,the photos are amazing

[Cameron deBoth]

now that is what you call flytying,the photos are amazing

Why thank you very much..............I wish 

[Derek McLaren]

one day if you keep going to the lessons      

[Cameron deBoth]

one day if you keep going to the lessons      

hahahah yea. To be honest I think I could tie those, its just I have no patience for the varnish to dry lol

[Sandy Nelson]

Thanks for that Cammy

Them i like, special the bare one, right up my street, now all i have to do is practice a bit

 


Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

How do you think they get that affect?

[Sandy Nelson]

How do you think they get that affect?

Mostly, well lit photography

But i do fancy trying putting the dye into the varnish, but what do you use and does it just need a touch and then it blends in?

Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

Hmmm iam puzzled, coloured silicone then varnished????
I will do some investigating tonight?

[Sandy Nelson]

Do you think if you used a pen on the hook and then varnished over it , it would work?

Must go find out

Sandy

[Derek McLaren]

Do you think if you used a pen on the hook and then varnished over it , it would work?

Must go find out

yeah it works ,I have one drying 

Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

Must have evidence to support such claims Derek 
Camera man please 

[Sandy Nelson]

I've just tried it too





Varnished thorax area of hook, let it dry, covered bottom of varnish with a standard re felt tip and then put a blob of varnish over the top.
Looks like a little paperweight attached to the hook, i think with some practice it could be very effective

Sandy

[Barry Robertson]

Once you master it let me know the ingredients 

[Rob Brownfield]

Looks like the poor thing is crying!!

Very interesting though...what about trying 5 minute epoxy?? Adding dylon dye might also be interesting!!

[Barry Robertson]

Epoxy would prob be better than varnish - more tackier than Varnish!
Good idea Rob 

[Sandy Nelson]

Trust Rob to come up with a tacky idea