[clark]

I am looking for some patterns that will work off the rocks on the west coast ??
could anyone give me any advise or names of patterns ??
any help would be great !


clark

[Jim Eddie]

Clark

Baitfish / Sandeel type patterns , Clouser Minnow.

http://www.fliesonline.co.uk/erol.html#4633X0

 

Jim

[Peter McCallum]

Polar fibre minnows worked for sea trout for me and pollack for mates

[Rob Brownfield]

I have just been tying up a heap of flies for salty exploits..been using EP fibres on Gamakatsu saltwater hooks. Basic sandeel patterns with a large eye and epoxy head. Simple to tie and very effective.

For Pollock look at patterns with a cheutreuse (sorry..cant spell) or bright pink back and white/light grey body. For Bass/Sea Trout, a blue back would appear best with black or dark green a close second.

Tie some with no sparkle for clear, shallow water, and others with sparkle for deeper or slightly dirty water.

Hope that helps a bit.

[Stuart Smith]

hi

myself and friends have been fishing the west coast for a few years now and we have found that dark blue and white polar firber minnows with a tiny bit of silver works very well for sea trout and pollack.
they were about 4 to 5 inch long for the pollack and about 2 inch for the sea trout

for the pollack most colours work if u can get them down to the right depth i was using a di 8 line but looking for a faster sinker

hope you have good fun pollack fight like hell when you get a good one

stuart

[clark]

Hey boys just came back from west coast holiday with the family and boy oh boy did i do alot of fishing (most on the fly:z16) and i ihad some great sport. It was mostly pollock and coalies the biggest being around 4 pounds so there was nothing big but there was also the odd mackerel thrown in so it was great fun   The only flie that i used though was a polar fibre minnow tyed up in sandeel colours, they didnt like anything else i chucked at them so i was a bit stumped on that one but overall it was great fun with me catching in excess of 70 fish all on the fly   

clark

[Jim Eddie]

Clark , great stuff , well done 

 

Jim

[Peter McCallum]

told you

[Iain Goolager]

Yes, well done indeed Clark - another branch of fly-fishing that I'm sure would be a great thrill.

I'm taking the loon to the MacDuff Aquarium sea life thingy tomorrow so I'm off to tie up some sandeel imitations.

Iain

[Rob Brownfield]

Yes, well done indeed Clark - another branch of fly-fishing that I'm sure would be a great thrill.

I'm taking the loon to the MacDuff Aquarium sea life thingy tomorrow so I'm off to tie up some sandeel imitations.

Iain

Iain,
better off tying flies to look like lumps of mackeral if you are fishing in the main tank Thats what the divers feed the fish on..heehee

I have often stood looking out to sea from the carpark and thought it an ideal place to cast a fly!

[Iain Goolager]

Hi Rob,

I arrived early so spent 10 min's or so kicking around the carpark --100% yes! that was my thought exactly. Nice casting platforms (moderate size boulders), seems to deepen off quite quickly and there doesn't seem to be any visible snags, reasonable unobstructed backcasting, etc. - very nice indeed - would be very much like fishing on one of those concrete bowl type reservoirs, which has the advantage of being reasonably sheltered.

the type of area which I'd choose to cast a fly.

What would you recommend hardware wise for general sea fly-fishing....bearing in mind that I'm defo. going to try the Pike on the fly next season so any thoughts on a combo which would suit both?

8wt outfit ? which reel? any lines that could be cross utilised? (I'm thinking from the Airflo stable - much cheapness!) shooting head systems for all? sounds sensible.

Any thoughts greatly received.

Iain

by the way cdc Mackerel buzzers are useless I only raised a small Hali but it turned and swam off.

[Jim Eddie]

Iain

I got myself a Diawa Wilderness 9ft 9# which covers both SFFF and Pike options (alhough I havent got round to trying either yet , its also a 6 piece so can fit in the rucksack. Most people I have spoken to advise a fairly fast sinking line for the SWFF , a line tray is also advised as your line is not going to last to long on the rocks.

 


jim

[Iain Goolager]

 Howdy Jim,

what reel are you using (planning to use)?

A 9' 9 wt rod...I guess Ill have to buy a tin of those steroids!!

Iain

[Jim Eddie]

Iain

I bought a cheap Salmon Reel Shakespear condex , got some cheap 9# lines on e-bay , Its not to bad to cast. Give me a shout if your in the Peterhead area and you could have a cast or next time there is a float tube day at Haddo.
Failing that , if you are in the Rubislaw area at lunchtime, mind you we would be a bit over gunned for the Denburn       

 

Jim

[Iain Goolager]

Jim,
Never underestimate the Denburn!
Thanks for the offer of trying the set up, I'll see how things progress..........I'm off to have a look on e-bay.

I'll keep in touch.

Iain

[Rob Brownfield]

Iain,
I could sort you out with one oo the rods I am building for the Pike Fly Fishing Association Just introduced a 9 weight, slightly faster action version..made a couple for SWFF only using saltwater proof fittings and the chaps are very happy with them And you wont need steroids for it..incredably light for a saltwater blank

I currently use a 9 weight Orvis Powermatrix or a 10 weight Greys Esox...purely because thats what i have for the Pike. I will be ordering myself one of these new 9 weight blanks and making it up strictly for SWFF

I have heard of folk using 6 or 8 weight rods off the UK coast, which is fine for Bass or Mullet of a sandy beach, but 90% of the fly fishing up here is over rough ground and you need to swing the fish up the rocks so need something a bit stronger in my opinion.

As for reels..cant go wrong with an Okuma Airframe as they have a sealed drag and are made of a composite so never go rusty. I use an Orvis Mach IV, but its already getting damaged on the rocks, so going back to the Airframe or Integrity as they are only £30 instead of £200..lol

[Iain Goolager]

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the info. what sort of 'folding', 'lucre', 'bunce' are you looking at for the rod?

Iain

[Rob Brownfield]

Ahhhh..that horrible question!!! Well...I am doing them at a discount of £160 for members of the PFFA..normal price is £200. Since its you..I will match the PFFA price.

Going to blow my own trumpet now..lol..here is the PM I got from Tim Matks, Vice President of the Specialist Anglers Alliance....

"Rob,

I had 10 minutes grass casting with 'the' rod last evening -  it is outstanding.

I started with a full 11 line (just testing !!) and it happily threw 25+ yards of that without going sloppy at all. I was pleasantly surprised.

Then I put a full 9 on it expecting it to be harder work -  but it was a delight. Even fairly short, accurate casts were no problem. Then  if you aerialise 12 or 15 yards of line, it will really fly.

I like the build, I like the rings, the handle and reel fitting do what they are designed to do. It is a cracker. Many thanks. I wll even take it saltwater fishing as it is so versatile.

Can I have another one please ?

Same build but with ano colour whips -  what about a darkish emerald green?? I reckon that would also look good against the carbon colour.

Shall I send you ano cheque for £160 ?

Would you like me to write a mini review for the PFFA website ??

Regards and thanks again.

Tim"

and another custome..

"Interestingly I also have an old  Steve Parton 9 - 11 and I was expecting your blank to be similar to that seeing as it came out of the same factory. They are chalk and cheese -  yours is responsive and has that illusive 'feel'. Yours seems a totally reworked taper which explains the versatility. "

  Really chuffed at the reports i am getting back as it took a while to get the blank right

[Iain Goolager]

Rob,

pm sent

Iain