just started my 5wt got the handle set, so tomorrow I'll start the whipping,I meant to start it earlier but health got in the way both me and the missus, so I've got the time and the Inclination, I am using stainless snakes and a hayfork tip, I used thoseTitanium guides on a travel rod I made for a mate they have been fine, but it made a difference to the costs, got the blanks from HiLevel, I had all the rest to hand , even the ready built handle I got in a bunch from McHardys they were about £1 each in the sale, so I stocked up, it keeps me out of mischief, Derek Roxborough