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Sandy Nelson

Eureka!
« on: 09/01/2009 at 12:41 »
Its Boring :z6 BUT I just wanted to share "One of those moments" :z16

I've been squirreled away since before christmas getting to grips with Building Cane rods. Having figured the splitting, heat treating and now the nodal work, i've been planing for the last few days trying to grips with what i perceived to be the trickiest part It finally came together this morning :z18.

The best i was getting a couple of days ago was this, a nice long strip but 10 thou thick :z6



Then i managed to get it down to 4 thou and was struggling to get that bit more accuracy :z6



But this morning after spending ages sharpening my plane the best i could get it i finally got the 1 thousandths of an inch i've been trying to achieve. :z12



It was only a short length but the nice long curl will come :z16 Not bad on rough formers :grin

My garage is starting to look like a bamboo shop too, :cool: cool



For those who are still vaguely interested, and aren't rolling their eyes, here is where i've got the nodal work too, most acceptable, (the top half are the power fibres, most of the bottom will get planed away)



Now all i have to do is get more practice, getting them into triangles and i think i may soon be ready to start with some basic tapers, I'm finding it a lot easier than i thought :z3

Sandy






Paul Rankine

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #1 on: 09/01/2009 at 12:54 »
Sandy,
         
Quote
I'm finding it a lot easier than i thought

Yes, it looks pretty easy ,  :shock .

 :wink

Paul.

Mike Barrio

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #2 on: 09/01/2009 at 12:58 »
Awesome :z16

It is great to see how each little piece of your "jigsaw puzzle" has been taking shape over the past while .....

Thanks for posting the photos
Cheers
Mike

Hamish Young

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #3 on: 09/01/2009 at 12:59 »
Hell of a lot of effort for garden canes  :z7 :z4

Irvine Ross

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #4 on: 09/01/2009 at 14:34 »
Sandy

Forgive me for the daft question, but are you trying to shape the sections with a HAND plane :shock

How do you make sure you are forming the correct angle? I always assumed that there would be some form of a jig to hold the sections while you shape them :z8

Forgive me if I'm spouting rubbish here, but what you have lying on the bench is a block plane which has the blade at a low angle for smoothing end grain. For planing along the grain, I was told it's better to use a smoothing plane which has the blade at a higher angle. But you maybe know more about this than I do.

Hope you manage to escape from the clutches of the cane before the 1st of April :grin

Irvine

Rob Brownfield

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #5 on: 09/01/2009 at 14:40 »
I see you have some pretty darn good precision instruments there...a mallet! If it dont fit, use the mallet! My school of engineering!..lol

I am in awe by the way! I dabbled with the idea a while back, getting most of my inspiration from a book written by the late great Dick walker. In he he described in great detail how to get the tapers etc and after re-reading several times I decided it would be cheaper and easier to just buy the cane blank from Aggutters  :oops

Good luck with your venture, please do keep us informed!

Rob Brownfield

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #6 on: 09/01/2009 at 15:09 »
I am sure you have seen these to links..but others might be interested too..

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=31991

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30778

Sandy Nelson

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #7 on: 09/01/2009 at 16:01 »
Sandy

Forgive me for the daft question, but are you trying to shape the sections with a HAND plane :shock

How do you make sure you are forming the correct angle? I always assumed that there would be some form of a jig to hold the sections while you shape them :z8

Forgive me if I'm spouting rubbish here, but what you have lying on the bench is a block plane which has the blade at a low angle for smoothing end grain.

Smart arse :z4

I'm still experimenting with rough planing, i have a Stanley 060 low angle which is OK for roughing the triangles. I'm using a very basic 60' form i made from two strips of wood screwed together, very heath robinson, but lots of fun. Once i get to forming tapers i go onto a stanley 090 a 9 1/2 apparently (I have yet to buy one of these they aren't cheap) so for now the 60 has to do. Still its surprisingly good. I've still quite a way to go before i get to that stage, but If i get the time, hopefully i'll have some glued and bound by the start of the season :z8 you never know. I've quite a few scrap helicopter bits for building a binding machine, should be interesting
I have an idea for making tapered formers using hardwood, should be good enough for playing with (its worked fine for the rough ones), I might get our resident machinist at work to make me some steel forms later in the year
and then i can get accurate :grin

Still sneaking tools that cost money is as much fun as sneaking fishing tackle :z4

Better watch thought this could get very boring :roll

Sandy

Sandy Nelson

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #8 on: 09/01/2009 at 16:10 »
Rob

I've actually been speaking to Tim quite a bit, Nice guy :z16
Makes lovely rods too, he's almost doing it full time now. I cant see how anyone can make a living doing that, its fine as a hobby, but its so time consuming
Getting everything up to the blank stage, that unless you are charging megabucks for a rod, you are only just scraping by.
I'm just lucky i work shifts and can spend the time learning it.

Sandy

Rob Brownfield

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #9 on: 09/01/2009 at 17:56 »
Rob

I've actually been speaking to Tim quite a bit

I thought you might have been! :) I am amazed at how many folk are starting to build the blanks as a hobby/bit of cash. I am truely in awe of what you are doing. Although I have an eye for fine detail, I can't work with natural materials.  :cry

Irvine Ross

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #10 on: 09/01/2009 at 18:03 »
Rob

Thanks for the link to the cane rod building thread. I now have a better idea of how many years it's going to take Sandy to build his first rod. If I had that much time to spare I might manage to go fishing :z16

Irvine

Sandy Nelson

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #11 on: 09/01/2009 at 21:03 »
Rob

Thanks for the link to the cane rod building thread. I now have a better idea of how many years it's going to take Sandy to build his first rod. If I had that much time to spare I might manage to go fishing :z16

Irvine

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Mike Barrio

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #12 on: 11/01/2009 at 10:48 »
Sunday morning TV Sandy? :wink


Mike Barrio

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #13 on: 11/01/2009 at 10:52 »
Sunday afternoon TV Sandy? :wink


Rob Brownfield

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #14 on: 11/01/2009 at 12:27 »
Gee whizz..they are even making cane rods in the far east now!!  :shock



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Mike Barrio

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #15 on: 11/01/2009 at 14:44 »
I wonder what format, or how, some videos end up being so much higher quality on YouTube :roll

Mine usually look fine on my PC, but when I upload them they lose a lot of quality :z6

Cheers
Mike

dseabass

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #16 on: 11/01/2009 at 16:37 »
years !!!----only took that guy 5 mins and looked straightforward tae me  :z4 :z4 :z4

seriously ---thats one fiddly ambitious plan unless yv got all those lathes and shit :z4

Rob Brownfield

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #17 on: 11/01/2009 at 18:16 »
I wonder what format, or how, some videos end up being so much higher quality on YouTube :roll

Mine usually look fine on my PC, but when I upload them they lose a lot of quality :z6

Cheers
Mike

Codecs mike...codecs :) Basically the way your movie is compressed is by using a Codec. Windows media player etc have there own but for broadcast quality we use Sorrenson which gives a very high quality web deliverable video. Costs a few pennies though.

Sandy Nelson

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #18 on: 11/01/2009 at 19:59 »
Thanks Mike

Makes it look nice and easy :roll.

 :z4 :z4 :z4

Sandy

Alex Burnett

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #19 on: 15/01/2009 at 21:17 »
Bamboo is the fastest-growing plant on Earth; it has been clocked surging skyward as fast as 121 cm (47.6 inches) in a 24-hour period and can also reach maximal growth rate exceeding one meter (39 inches) per hour for short periods of time.

Sandy does this mean if you start building a 9ft rod & you take too long to do it you could end up with a 10ft rod.

 :z4  :z4  :z4  :z4

Sandy Nelson

Re: Eureka!
« Reply #20 on: 15/01/2009 at 22:06 »
Bamboo is the fastest-growing plant on Earth; it has been clocked surging skyward as fast as 121 cm (47.6 inches) in a 24-hour period and can also reach maximal growth rate exceeding one meter (39 inches) per hour for short periods of time.

Sandy does this mean if you start building a 9ft rod & you take too long to do it you could end up with a 10ft rod.

 :z4  :z4  :z4  :z4

Cool, brings a whole new meaning to fast action flyrods :z16


Sandy :z16

 




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