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Andrews brother

Fluorocarbon knots
« on: 08/07/2010 at 18:47 »
 I am having a huge amount of problems with this product.
 I have tried tying my droppers with the three turn water knot, steel rings etc, all to no avail. I am constantly losing fish either owing to the knot failing or breakage at that point.
 I take my time with all of my knots and do wet them before drawing them tight, however I am now starting to lose confidence with this type of line.I even bought new spools of line in case of deterioration, but still getting breakages!
  I have tried various types, Riverge, Grand Riverge, Fulling Mill etc, not only for their reputation but also for their diameter.
  I am now trying the trilene knot for cast to fly, I used to use the blood or tucked blood knot but, have had failures with this also but would really appreciate any advice for a good, reliable dropper knot, or if any member could aid me with suggestions.
  I never had these problems with other casts/knots prior to trying fluorocarbon.
  Thanks to all in advance.

Kev Danby

Re: Fluorocarbon knots
« Reply #1 on: 08/07/2010 at 22:23 »
Follow the link I use this knot suggested by Carl Hutchinson and never had any issues with it on all types of line.

I think Jedi uses the same knot

http://www.ukswff.co.uk/Tips_Dropper.shtml

Ben Dixon

Re: Fluorocarbon knots
« Reply #2 on: 08/07/2010 at 22:56 »
Fluoro can be tricky.

I use a perfection loop for creating loops and a three turn water knot for droppers, a four turn will break in my experience.  Always wet it before tightening and make sure that the knot is pulled tight slowly and seated correctly.  I have had less problems with fluoro breaking that with double strength, unreliable knots with DS material is why I moved over and have had few issues with fluoro.
What were you using before moving over to Fluoro?  I buy tippet material by diameter rather than by BS, 6lb maxima is of much greater diameter than average 6lb fluoro and will carry heavier / larger flies.


Cheers

Ben

Rob Brownfield

Re: Fluorocarbon knots
« Reply #3 on: 09/07/2010 at 08:35 »
And I have had no issues with Double Strength, but loads with the Orvis Super Strong..so much so that I have 6 spools of the stuff and wont use it. Very strange.

I have used the Fulling Mill Fluro and found that very tough and reliable whilst the Airflo stuff broke just by looking at it!

I use Fluro a lot for coarse fishing and have always used a grinner knot and can't think of ever having a knot go so I carried on using them when tying on flies. Its the dropper knot that always seems to go with me. I use a 3 turn water knot which obviously needs rethinking with fluro.

Andrews brother

Re: Fluorocarbon knots
« Reply #4 on: 09/07/2010 at 17:17 »
 Thanks for your very helpful replies, I will now try Kevs site and use the knot there for my next outing.
  Thanks again,
   Keith

 




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