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stickleback

Home made lathe for turning handles
« on: 13/10/2009 at 20:18 »
Without access to a proper lathe or mandrel, I made my own based around several different versions I saw on the internet.  It was back to the DIY store for a 1m long 8mm threaded rod, a length of 44mm x 96mm timber (this is the closest I could get to what was formerly known as 2” x 4”), a pack of four 40mm fixed plate nylon wheel castors.  I also used a hinge, wooden base strip, and other bits and pieces that were already lying around my garage.

Base plate - Cut a section of 44mm x 96mm  to 1m in length.  Cut the base strip (which in my case was an old bit of 2” x 1” timber) to the same length and screw it on down the centre of the underside of the length of the 44mm x 96mm.   The base strip will ultimately be held in the vice of my bench holding everything steady during the turning / sanding process.


Next screw two of the wheels onto the upperside of the 44mm x 96mm so that when sighting down it’s length, the wheels appear slightly overlapped one behind the other and the tops of the wheels form a sort of ‘V’ shape.

Top plate - Cut another piece of 44mm x 96mm, this time approx 25cm in length.  Screw the two remaining wheels onto it in a similar fashion to the base plate, but so that if you invert the top plate they are positioned to the rear of the bottom pair.


End plate - Cut a third piece of 44mm x 96mm , this time 96mm so you’ve got a square of timber, to hold the top plate (and it’s wheels) high enough above the base plate and it’s wheels so that when you sight down the length of the base plate there’s a small diamond shaped hole between all four wheels – this is the hole that will ultimately grip the end of your ‘mandrel’. 


Once you’ve done a dry run assembly and reckon everything is in the correct position, stick it together.  Screw the end plate in place to the base plate and re-enforce with wooden plates on the outside edges.  Attach the top plate with a hinge so you can easily open and shut it.




Drill housing - Next stage is the doing the other end for your lathe motor, in my case my trusty Black & Decker variable speed drill.  Screw wooden side walls (roughly the same length as your drill), to each side of the base plate at the end furthest from the wheels – the side walls have to be pretty strong.  The side walls should be marginally lower then your drill when inverted on it’s back on the base plate between the side walls (so that you can tape the drill in place if necessary). 


Leaning plate - Then attach a strip of wood along one side running from where the drill will be to where the wheels are – you’ll use this plate to lean on and steady your hands whilst sanding.

The ‘mandrel’ - Stick the 1m x 8mm diameter threaded rod into your drill, and mark the rough length you reckon you’ll need, judging it from where the drill will sit in the drill housing at one end of the base plate, with the other end of the mandrel / threaded rod comfortably passing through the wheels at the other.  For my drill and lathe I cut mine to 65cm in length. 

I then used bits of thin off cut / scraps of wood to adjust the height of the drill and wedged it in place so the mandrel / threaded rod was totally horizontal and parallel to the leaning plate.

I also used a bungee cord to gently hold the wheel clamp together around the mandrel.

As I’ve already mentioned, the threaded rod is your mandrel.  It will likely be thinner in diameter than the hole going through the centre of your cork handle.  Build a few masking tape bushings so that they are snug against the inside of the handle when it is slipped over them. 


Then bolt the handle in place onto the threaded rod / mandrel using washers, nuts, and wing nuts.  Don’t do it too tight – just enough to stop the cork handle slipping when you’re sanding it.

Tape up the portion of the mandrel / threaded rod that will sit amongst the wheels – this will prevent the rod chewing the wheels up. 

Stick the mandrel / threaded rod with handle attached into the drill, invert the drill and place it in the drill housing of your contraption, with the other end of the mandrel / threaded rod resting in the ‘V’ of the base plate wheels, close the top plate so the ‘^’ made by the top plate wheels rest on top of the mandrel / threaded rod, wedge / tape the drill in place, and it’s ready to power up and sand. 

Ready to roll:


Through trial and error, I discovered that everything works best if the drill is run at a fairly high speed – if it goes too slow the sand paper and cork tend to ‘bounce’ quite violently, but the faster you go the smoother the operation seems to be.

I used three different grades of sandpaper – very rough (80), medium (180) and super fine (360).  The medium and superfine were really only used for finishing.

I measured the shape of a handle on another rod and used it as a rough guide for mine.  I taped a sketch of the shape and dimensions onto the workbench so it was easy to check my progress as I went along.

I found that the normal cork sanded quite easily, the burl was harder, and the rubberised cork was pretty hard going.  I found that when I had all three types of cork stuck adjacent to each other, if I didn’t pay close attention, I could inadvertently tilt my sanding hand towards the softer stuff (normal cork) and take too much off – just like this ! – but fortunately not enough to really notice.



Mike Barrio

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #1 on: 13/10/2009 at 22:04 »
Great post Cammy :z16

The photos certainly help to explain everything.

Cheers
Mike

Rob Brownfield

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #2 on: 14/10/2009 at 08:20 »
I love the Heath Robinson approach!!! You should market it! :)

Bronzebommer

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #3 on: 14/10/2009 at 20:17 »

stickleback

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #4 on: 14/10/2009 at 22:51 »
Nice set up, but me thinks this may be better :wink
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-Drill-Powered-Woodturning-Lathe-21279.htm

Ach well, I'll just have to shred that application form I'd completed for Dragons Den  :z4 :z4

Mike Barrio

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #5 on: 14/10/2009 at 23:13 »
Ach well, I'll just have to shred that application form I'd completed for Dragons Den  :z4 :z4

Maybe, but did you notice that you've got one and they're out of stock :z13

Cheers
Mike

Irvine Ross

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #6 on: 15/10/2009 at 19:31 »
Nice set up, but me thinks this may be better :wink
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-Drill-Powered-Woodturning-Lathe-21279.htm

Does anyone know how to get over the problem of the standard tail stock on a wood turning lathe? The standard fitting is a round spike that sticks into the wood. If you have fitted the cork handle on the blank or a temporary spindle, how does that fit on the lathe?

Puzzled

Irvine

stickleback

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #7 on: 15/10/2009 at 21:00 »
I'm not sure you could spin a blank on a lathe like that.  The only way I thought it might be possible to do something similar using a lathe (as pictured in Bronzebomber's link) would be to replace the 'spike' at the end on the right, with a circular bearing of some sort recessed into wood, the hole in the bearing being similar to the diameter of the blank, and the end of the blank going into the bearing so the blank spins with little or no friction if you see what I mean.  How you would connect the blank to the lathe motor without damage to the blank and / or suffer slippage at speed would be also be a consideration. 

IMHO, if anyone was to use a real lathe, I'd plonk for buying a proper steel mandrel which is designed with the 'spike' in mind (does anyone know the proper engineering term for the pointy bit we're talking about ? :z4 ).  You can get mandrels from Mudhole, and I had considered going that route but the costs would have just keep mounting up etc. so I went the DIY route in true North East thrifty fashion  http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Custom-Lathe-Parts/Steel-Turning-Mandrels.
Besides, I enjoyed building the gadgets almost as much as I enjoyed making the rod !  Where's my anorak ?  :oops

Bronzebommer

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #8 on: 15/10/2009 at 21:09 »
 I don't know much about wood turning but on a metal lathe you get fixed or rotating tail stock centre points.

Mike Barrio

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #9 on: 15/10/2009 at 21:20 »
Quite a group of you building rods now ....... Cool :z16

Off the top of my head:

Cammy "stickleback"
Irvine "Hares Lug"
Rob "Rob"
Dave "Caddisfisher"
Alex "Koi keeper"
Alex "catman"
Sandy "spiderman"

Plus Matt, Kevin and Steven have bought blanks to build recently too :cool:

Excellent :z14
Best wishes
Mike

Bronzebommer

Re: Home made lathe for turning handles
« Reply #10 on: 15/10/2009 at 22:05 »
Should have mine done in a couple of weeks when I get back from palying at oil rigs. I just cant make my mind up if I am going to seal the threads before I varnish them. (Rob dont bother posting a comment about this because I know what you are going to say :z7)

Matt

 




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